Comments on: Gunaysu: Armenians and Kurds http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/ Published by the Hairenik Association, Inc. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:32:28 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Simkohttp://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/comment-page-1/#comment-9296 Simko Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:03:01 +0000 http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=3225#comment-9296 @JakeInLAwhats your point their still being persecuted and cant sing or speak the Kurdish. turkey is a fascist state i think you need to understand that. go look up what the definition of Fascism is. @JakeInLA

whats your point their still being persecuted and cant sing or speak the Kurdish. turkey is a fascist state i think you need to understand that. go look up what the definition of Fascism is.

]]> By: JakeInLAhttp://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/comment-page-1/#comment-2868 JakeInLA Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:31:50 +0000 http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=3225#comment-2868 The millions of Kurds that live in Turkey are more integrated to the mainstream society than outsiders understand. They are among the most celebrated singers, writers, comedians, artists, doctors, lawyers, politicians, and have gone up in the highest ranks in the army and government (i.e. president). It is true that this came at the expense of blending in to the mainstream society. If the many nations in the US insisted on only speaking their own language, and education in their own language only - would they have integrated to the American society as a whole? There is no question about speaking English and perceiving oneself as an American first and foremost, before ethnic background. What works beautifully in the US should work just as well in Turkey. Turkey is already a melting pot. Like it or not ! The millions of Kurds that live in Turkey are more integrated to the mainstream society than outsiders understand. They are among the most celebrated singers, writers, comedians, artists, doctors, lawyers, politicians, and have gone up in the highest ranks in the army and government (i.e. president). It is true that this came at the expense of blending in to the mainstream society. If the many nations in the US insisted on only speaking their own language, and education in their own language only – would they have integrated to the American society as a whole? There is no question about speaking English and perceiving oneself as an American first and foremost, before ethnic background. What works beautifully in the US should work just as well in Turkey. Turkey is already a melting pot. Like it or not !

]]> By: Samvel Jeshmaridian, PhDhttp://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/comment-page-1/#comment-2783 Samvel Jeshmaridian, PhD Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:14:52 +0000 http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=3225#comment-2783 Though, throughout their history, the Turkish tribes have been cunningly wise, in one thing they lacked and remain lacking. They could not go into the depth of True Islamic Faith and Sacred Writings. Turkish tribes were able to eliminate Christian Armenians and Orthodox Greeks, cheat on Muslim Kurds; they were willing to Turkishly dance in front of Slavonic Russians, French, German, and British Europeans, White and Colored Americans (and recently, Turkishly shout out at mighty and meek Chinese) -- all the time using the hatred of these nations toward each other, for the benefit of their Statehood (read terrorist statehood), Property (read haram and anti-islamic property, and Progress (read remote and anti-heavenly progress). Yet Turkish tribes have been clever enough to survive these minor and major calamities, their leaders failed to understand the meaning of Islam. Now, heavenly forces are about to work against Turkishness and traditional turkish terrorist statehood. If simple Turkish citizens are able to understand the meaning of human rights, the functions of heavenly forces, and the priciples of mutuality, hence asking excuses, forgiveness, and redemption -- Turkishness shall survive. Otherwise, Mighty and halal Arabs, Pure and righteous Kurds, meek Armenians, and humble Greeks shall destroy anything that is called Turkey in Anatolia. Samvel Jeshmaridian jeshmarid@yahoo.com Though, throughout their history, the Turkish tribes have been cunningly wise, in one thing they lacked and remain lacking. They could not go into the depth of True Islamic Faith and Sacred Writings. Turkish tribes were able to eliminate Christian Armenians and Orthodox Greeks, cheat on Muslim Kurds; they were willing to Turkishly dance in front of Slavonic Russians, French, German, and British Europeans, White and Colored Americans (and recently, Turkishly shout out at mighty and meek Chinese) – all the time using the hatred of these nations toward each other, for the benefit of their Statehood (read terrorist statehood), Property (read haram and anti-islamic property, and Progress (read remote and anti-heavenly progress). Yet Turkish tribes have been clever enough to survive these minor and major calamities, their leaders failed to understand the meaning of Islam. Now, heavenly forces are about to work against Turkishness and traditional turkish terrorist statehood. If simple Turkish citizens are able to understand the meaning of human rights, the functions of heavenly forces, and the priciples of mutuality, hence asking excuses, forgiveness, and redemption – Turkishness shall survive. Otherwise, Mighty and halal Arabs, Pure and righteous Kurds, meek Armenians, and humble Greeks shall destroy anything that is called Turkey in Anatolia.
Samvel Jeshmaridian
jeshmarid@yahoo.com

]]> By: Manooshaghttp://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/comment-page-1/#comment-2773 Manooshag Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:43:17 +0000 http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=3225#comment-2773 Hye, wake  up world... Turkey has been committing the second (2nd) Genocide of the 20th century and now into the 21st century.By labeling the Kurds as 'terrorists' (Turks' thinking) this allows them to eliminate the Kurds  (who are really freedom fighters against tyranny of the Ottoman Genocide mentality) even now  into the subsequent Turkish 'democratic' governments!  Turkey lies to their own society as well in its  vile treatment of its own citizens. Turkey promises Armenia-then reneges- the world is watches  - what is Turkey's next ploy? And, Turkey is known the world over as a nation which signs agreements but then.... whoops, doesn't abide by any.  Turkey is, as an emperor in the children's well known fairy tale of  THE EMPEROR'S CLOTHES, (clothing which did not exist)  but the emperor insisted, yes insisted, he was wearing his new clothes - whilst he was not clothed... Yet, Turkey's 'democracy' is claimed today by a Turkey -  but  in a Turkey  democracy just ain't there... is it?  Yet, the U.S. leadership, State Department leading the parade, insists Turkey is a democracy - Turkey has not been able to become a 'democracy' - in nearly one hundred years (to date).  Howsomever, when the Armenian nation was formed for the mere two years (1918-1920) Armenian patriots lead the nation, reeling from the Turkish Genocide, yet in those two years had  established their university.  Now that's what I call exemplary leadership - exemplary patriots whose love of country  to be an example, today.  Manooshag Hye, wake  up world… Turkey has been committing the second (2nd) Genocide of the 20th century and now into the 21st century.By labeling the Kurds as ‘terrorists’ (Turks’ thinking) this allows them to eliminate the Kurds  (who are really freedom fighters against tyranny of the Ottoman Genocide mentality) even now  into the subsequent Turkish ‘democratic’ governments!  Turkey lies to their own society as well in its  vile treatment of its own citizens. Turkey promises Armenia-then reneges- the world is watches  - what is Turkey’s next ploy?
And, Turkey is known the world over as a nation which signs agreements but then…. whoops, doesn’t abide by any.  Turkey is, as an emperor in the children’s well known fairy tale of  THE EMPEROR’S CLOTHES, (clothing which did not exist)  but the emperor insisted, yes insisted, he was wearing his new clothes – whilst he was not clothed… Yet, Turkey’s ‘democracy’ is claimed today by a Turkey –  but  in a Turkey  democracy just ain’t there… is it?  Yet, the U.S. leadership, State Department leading the parade, insists Turkey is a democracy -
Turkey has not been able to become a ‘democracy’ – in nearly one hundred years (to date).  Howsomever, when the Armenian nation was formed for the mere two years (1918-1920) Armenian patriots lead the nation, reeling from the Turkish Genocide, yet in those two years had  established their university.  Now that’s what I call exemplary leadership – exemplary patriots whose love of country  to be an example, today.  Manooshag

]]> By: Papken Hartunianhttp://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/08/05/gunaysu-armenians-and-kurds/comment-page-1/#comment-2767 Papken Hartunian Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:41:53 +0000 http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=3225#comment-2767 Any plan less than free Kurdistan in the region will be temporary solution to the Kurdish Question. However, one should not forget Turkish cheap talk strategy. Any plan less than free Kurdistan in the region will be temporary solution to the Kurdish Question. However, one should not forget Turkish cheap talk strategy.

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