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> <channel><title>Comments on: Kaligian to Sarkisian: How Can You Accept These Severe Concessions?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/</link> <description>Published by the Hairenik Association, Inc.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:53:00 -0400</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Hagopn</title><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/comment-page-1/#comment-4040</link> <dc:creator>Hagopn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=4063#comment-4040</guid> <description>Therefore, the parallel situation with that of post WWI is again in place where Russo-Turkish relations have been warmed to unprecedented levels where, indeed as one hired attack dog mentioned in another article&#039;s comment section, the Russian head of state visited Ankara for the first time in 500 years, which indicates the promotion of Turkey to some sort of regional &quot;leadership&quot; status, the sign of a the weasel in the chicken coop scenario building, if you will.   The situation, therefore, is even worse than it was in 1920 where corruption and denationalization is rampant, where &quot;good neighborliness of our wonderful Turkic brothers&quot; propaganda is blaring from the state controlled media, where the oligarchy and its diasporan minions disregard all Armenian public concerns, where the dogmatic and illegitimate self-declared president is under pressure due to his own illegal ascension.   I wonder what sort of efforts there are in demoralizing the Armenian military.  The only positive I can think of are nationalist thinkers such as Ayvazyan, Papian, and so on in Armenia who , as much as their resources and constricted freedoms allow, are countering this propaganda machine.
Gevork Yazedjian&#039;s article on Kars has demonstrated the stark similarities during the fall of Kars today especially in the attitudes of the ruling Armenian regime.  http://www.ararat-center.org/upload/files/Razm_&amp;_Anvtang_16.pdf
 </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therefore, the parallel situation with that of post WWI is again in place where Russo-Turkish relations have been warmed to unprecedented levels where, indeed as one hired attack dog mentioned in another article&#8217;s comment section, the Russian head of state visited Ankara for the first time in 500 years, which indicates the promotion of Turkey to some sort of regional &#8220;leadership&#8221; status, the sign of a the weasel in the chicken coop scenario building, if you will.   The situation, therefore, is even worse than it was in 1920 where corruption and denationalization is rampant, where &#8220;good neighborliness of our wonderful Turkic brothers&#8221; propaganda is blaring from the state controlled media, where the oligarchy and its diasporan minions disregard all Armenian public concerns, where the dogmatic and illegitimate self-declared president is under pressure due to his own illegal ascension.   I wonder what sort of efforts there are in demoralizing the Armenian military.  The only positive I can think of are nationalist thinkers such as Ayvazyan, Papian, and so on in Armenia who , as much as their resources and constricted freedoms allow, are countering this propaganda machine.<br
/> Gevork Yazedjian&#8217;s article on Kars has demonstrated the stark similarities during the fall of Kars today especially in the attitudes of the ruling Armenian regime.  <a
href="http://www.ararat-center.org/upload/files/Razm_&amp;_Anvtang_16.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ararat-center.org/upload/files/Razm_&amp;_Anvtang_16.pdf</a><br
/>  </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hagopn</title><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/comment-page-1/#comment-4039</link> <dc:creator>Hagopn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:43:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=4063#comment-4039</guid> <description>It has to occur to people that the division between the Yerevan so-called government and diaspora was also part of the calculated benefits by the present day &quot;Entente.&quot;   Those of us who evoke historical parallels are ridiculed by the hired henchmen, including Davidian and Martirosyan, but let me draw one more parallel:
1. Despite the Entente in force, Turkey - member of the Axis - managed to be relieved of the &quot;burden of defeat&quot; due to 2 significant factors: a) a negligent Russophile and nihilist Armenian government and military officers in 1920 at Kars as described in painful detail here,  and b) Bolshevik support for Kemal&#039;s socialist pretensions and the resulting Kars and Moscow Treaties.
2. Today Turkey has been promoted to &quot;ally&quot; status and is a full member of NATO, and yet we are to believe that somehow they will be &quot;pressured&quot; to accomodate to &quot;international norms&quot; when it concerns particularly the issue of genocide recognition.  One would either have to be a paid agent or utterly stupid to swallow that pill.
 </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to occur to people that the division between the Yerevan so-called government and diaspora was also part of the calculated benefits by the present day &#8220;Entente.&#8221;   Those of us who evoke historical parallels are ridiculed by the hired henchmen, including Davidian and Martirosyan, but let me draw one more parallel:<br
/> 1. Despite the Entente in force, Turkey &#8211; member of the Axis &#8211; managed to be relieved of the &#8220;burden of defeat&#8221; due to 2 significant factors: a) a negligent Russophile and nihilist Armenian government and military officers in 1920 at Kars as described in painful detail here,  and b) Bolshevik support for Kemal&#8217;s socialist pretensions and the resulting Kars and Moscow Treaties.<br
/> 2. Today Turkey has been promoted to &#8220;ally&#8221; status and is a full member of NATO, and yet we are to believe that somehow they will be &#8220;pressured&#8221; to accomodate to &#8220;international norms&#8221; when it concerns particularly the issue of genocide recognition.  One would either have to be a paid agent or utterly stupid to swallow that pill.<br
/>  </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Barkev Asadourian</title><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/comment-page-1/#comment-4027</link> <dc:creator>Barkev Asadourian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=4063#comment-4027</guid> <description>Ays polor tsootsere basdarnerov boralov 40 orva entatskin norenTAVAJANERE
ouzatsnin gadaretzin, Giankernin anbayman karj a.
ASDVATS  OKNE  MER HAY ZHOGHOVOURTE</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ays polor tsootsere basdarnerov boralov 40 orva entatskin norenTAVAJANERE<br
/> ouzatsnin gadaretzin, Giankernin anbayman karj a.<br
/> ASDVATS  OKNE  MER HAY ZHOGHOVOURTE</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stepan Piligian</title><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/comment-page-1/#comment-3987</link> <dc:creator>Stepan Piligian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:56:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=4063#comment-3987</guid> <description>  This entire process between the Armenian government and the diaspora has been both frustrating and embarassing. Frustrating in that it is obvious that President Sarkissian is not accustomed to being held accountable by his people and that he is very uncomfortable with this approach. The gap in political behavior and tactics between the Armenian government and the diaspora is significant. This problem has to be solved if weare going to make any real headway in recovering from the damage that has been done to the diasporan relationship. Embarassing in that, at a time when our sacred issues( recognition and territorial recognition) are on the world table, we are forced into public discord with the Armenian government. Forced because we were left  few real options to impact the outcome. 
          As Armenians, we can distinguish between our disagreement with the government and our support for the nation.To the world, they aren&#039;t able to separate it.The concept of a nation with an active diaspora is not generally understood. This allows the Turks to attempt to exploit the current
environment by claiming this is a &quot;diaspora issue&quot; . They will fail in the end as willl their campaign of denial. The real failing of the government is that they have not internalized what makes up the Armenian nation and to serve it.  We have an opportunityto use this conflict and make it a better day for the Armenian people. We must finds wayto bridge the gaps.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  This entire process between the Armenian government and the diaspora has been both frustrating and embarassing. Frustrating in that it is obvious that President Sarkissian is not accustomed to being held accountable by his people and that he is very uncomfortable with this approach. The gap in political behavior and tactics between the Armenian government and the diaspora is significant. This problem has to be solved if weare going to make any real headway in recovering from the damage that has been done to the diasporan relationship. Embarassing in that, at a time when our sacred issues( recognition and territorial recognition) are on the world table, we are forced into public discord with the Armenian government. Forced because we were left  few real options to impact the outcome. <br
/>           As Armenians, we can distinguish between our disagreement with the government and our support for the nation.To the world, they aren&#8217;t able to separate it.The concept of a nation with an active diaspora is not generally understood. This allows the Turks to attempt to exploit the current<br
/> environment by claiming this is a &#8220;diaspora issue&#8221; . They will fail in the end as willl their campaign of denial. The real failing of the government is that they have not internalized what makes up the Armenian nation and to serve it.  We have an opportunityto use this conflict and make it a better day for the Armenian people. We must finds wayto bridge the gaps.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: john</title><link>http://www.armenianweekly.com/2009/10/10/kaligian-to-sarkisian-how-can-you-accept-these-severe-concessions/comment-page-1/#comment-3972</link> <dc:creator>john</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:34:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.armenianweekly.com/?p=4063#comment-3972</guid> <description>What do you want from Mustafa Ataturk Sarkysian? He is either stupid, on the take or a CIA plant. Ask your selves why would the United states build a 100 Million dollar sprawling embassy in a small land locked country like Armenia? Sarkysian has to go!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you want from Mustafa Ataturk Sarkysian? He is either stupid, on the take or a CIA plant. Ask your selves why would the United states build a 100 Million dollar sprawling embassy in a small land locked country like Armenia? Sarkysian has to go!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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