Enough said. Now we know what thinks each of us in this forum and I really see no need for further comments.

On Kurdish complicity on the Genocide (in a Genocide denier’s wording):

“So, indeed, it is the weirdest thing that Kurds were forgetting how helpful they were against Armenian terror after Berlin treaty,almost all asirets very useful to maintain the order.”

On the Kurds who want self-determination and fight for it:

“So yes, we have learned a lesson from our experience with Armenians. Well, having said that we don’t have any far lands to relocate them, so have to live with them, doing what is necessary now after so many mistakes”.

These words anger anyone with a sense of decency. So here is this turk advocating and defending what his government has done, and you come out in his defense, repudiating what I say. You don’t know me. You obviously did not read my post in its entirety. You obviously did not read that I am against any Genocide and against killing people. Yes, I believe people like mehmet and ali, who advocate uprooting people, deporting them, massacring them –just read their posts– while denying that that constitutes Genocide, are despicable and worthless, yet I am aware of their humanity, and that’s why I am against what’s precisely called crimes against humanity.

The second part, as you may be aware, is that it is not only about Genocide recognition and throwing some candies to appease us. Turkey is an enemy state of Armenia,  and it has consistently been so. 

I don’t know what drives your take on this, and I don’t care. You are intermittently Armenian and then you relapse into turcophilia, but that’s your problem.  I’ve been four times to Constantinople, Trabizonda, Kars, etc. so I know these people, as much as you can know them in a trip, first hand.  I don’t really care about turkish individuals, whether they are good or bad: there are all sorts among them, and I have seen them, as among every nation. Our problem is the turkish state, that not only denies the Genocide but also continues its enmity against Armenia  with its alliance with azerbaijan against Artsakh: they are now imposing the Armenian withdrawal as a condition for these disgraceful protocols to be signed. These were supposed to be without “preconditions”, remember? In other words, it’s still an enemy state and an unreliable one.

The second thing is this: our history has really tamed you so you accept matter-of-factly turkish entitlement by fiat and force. You equate demanding our rights and standing up to them with adventurerism. It’s just a matter of dignity. Armenia is ready to settle its disputes with turkey pretty much along the cautious lines that you advocate, to no use. That’s because turkey is against an independent Armenian state. 

The third thing is this, and very noticeable: you only intervene to belittle Armenians like me who call things by their name and in defense of turks who are being given free space in an Armenian forum, something that does not happen in turkish media. As I have said, even though you would otherwise seem a good interlocutor, I have my doubts you are Armenian and even if you are, your turcophilia and your lack of dignity –your disdain for Armenian demands on principle, your undisguised deference to your turkish masters, your condescending attitude towards Armenians: wow, how kind the turks, they let Armenians have stands on the Mısır Çarşısı!– put you on the other side. If Armenia ever needed someone to defend its interests, you would surely be on the opposite list. You cannot count yourself as an Armenian, or maybe you can: the lowliest types in Constantinople who blush before speaking Armenian in the presence of turks, who have been cowered into fear by their turkish masters and who faint if they hear the 1915 date and who look down in the presence of a turkish cop. I can’t blame them: they know better than I do where they live and what kind of criminal state they are dealing with. This one thing is clear: You are not of the mettle of Hrant Dink. That’s for sure.