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Swedish PM Apologizes to Turkey for Parliament Vote

ANKARA, Turkey—On March 13, Swedish Prime Minister Frederick Reinfeldt apologized to his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for the resolution passed by the Swedish Parliament recognizing the Armenian Genocide, reported Hurriyet Daily News.

Swedish Prime Minister Frederick Reinfeldt

According to a statement issued by Erdogan’s office, Reinfeldt said, “The government is absolutely against the resolution, which was ratified as a result of domestic policy, and it will have no sanction or exercise power.” He added that Sweden will not allow the resolution to affect relations will Turkey.

Erdogan, in turn, demanded that Sweden “take steps to remedy this mistake.”

Turkey recalled its ambassador to Sweden for consultations following the recognition of the genocide by the Swedish Parliament. According to Ankara, the vote was “based upon major errors and without foundation.”

Also in reaction to the vote, Erdogan canceled his visit to Stockholm next week.

64 Comments on Swedish PM Apologizes to Turkey for Parliament Vote

  1. How obscene an act of cowardice. It is Turkey’s PM who should be  on his knees begging for repentance for their backwards policies of genocide denial.

  2. Ganadahay(Canadahay)
    Euro-countries are  awaiting the Anglo-Ams  to recognize  it ,then by and by they will also follow suit..To think  otherwise  is to imagine  well wish  that things will work out..
    have patience..
    April 24  is near..
    Think  instead  of stregnthening RA/Artsakh and …the Diaspora(s)
    Best  rgds,
    G.P.

  3. Hey guys, cool….
    This is just the next in the series of lies and manipulations by the Turkish media. A EU PM will never apologize for a decision from a democratically elected Parliament. What was actually said was:
    Aftonbladet:  “Han var mycket besviken över den svenska riksdagens beslut. Jag uttryckte också min beklagan.”
    If you do not know Swedish, you’ll have to trust me:  “beklagan” means broadly “sorry” and no Swede would see this as apologizing.
     
    The Turkish propaganda machine is out of control and our good Turkish friends are shooting themselves in the foot, once again. Think how the ordinary Swede would react to this obvious lie.
     

  4. There is some automatic keyword blanking for posts (understandable!):
    My previous quote contained the letters “ult” unstead of the three stars, because of  obvious associations.
     

  5. Armenians need to adopt to the century.    Lobbying a hostile activity in every country on the world is not the “answer”.      Please understand this.
    Globalism is changing everything.    This issue needs to be solved between people.    A lot of people were killed, and both sides accept that.
    Try building it up from there…
    - A friend

  6. Yesterday when I read about this news on the Voice of America News.com website with the headline of “Sweden’s FM Denounces Parliament Vote On Armenian Genocide”;  Swedish Foreign Minister is Carl Bildt.  He said that he has denounced a parliamentary resolution that recognizes the killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as genocide.  I got alarmed and I was wondering whether the Armenian Weekly people here heard of this.  I agree with Gregson that now what are the very cool headed Swedish people are going to say or think about the Turks’ lyings.  They’re going to say “Hey vay” how much patience those poor Armenians must have to be next door to these Turks.  I think all of us should follow Sassounian’s recommendations and start acting and not just talking about it.  Then we’ll see whether the US Administration will pass the AG Resolution or not.

  7. Drew,
    You first have to be brutally tortured, cut into pieces, burned and then killed by slow hanging, buried in shallow grave, your country has to be raised to the ground village by village, city after city, your churches and schools have to burned, looted and the millenial land you had have to be reshaped and renamed to become the land of the occupier.., your cemetaries desecrated, your mother, sister, wife and children all have to be brutally raped and their throats slitted, and you have to be able to watch all that, THEN multiply all that by the millions,
    …and then the perpetrators would have to come and tell you.. “NONE OF THESE HAD EVER HAPPENED”
    Try telling a Jewish person “common.. Nazis died in the millions too”
    Now you could take your heartless, humanless, faceless, anti justice Globalization to whereever you wish..
    YOU are NOT a friend.. for a friend seeks justice before peace, and not peace before justice. Hope you got my message..

  8. Nairian,

    As usual, you speak yet you say NOTHING!!! This is quite typical for dashnaks, but will only be tolerated by a civil world for just so long. You were posed questions in other areas and have still yet to respond. Is there a particular reason why you are not responding, or are you simply playing the century old dashnak hit and run game? For your edification, the PM of Sweden is responding sincerely and truthfully to the obviously corrupt members of their parliament! Not long ago, the same thing was done by Poland’s leader after their parliament went corrupt and made a stupid vote! I must say this much…those dashnak Armenian diaspora monies sure are flowing quite freely thses days, aren’t they? But then again, I’m just a simple paid agent of Turkey!! What you all don’t seem to realize is that all of these corrupt actions of your diaspora is already starting to backfire. Wait and see how things will really start jumping globally by summer!

  9. avatar David Boyajian // March 15, 2010 at 3:57 pm // Reply

    Turkey and the Swedish government are 10 years too late, almost to the day.

    Surey I am not the only one who realizes that a Swedish Parliament report proclaimed the Armenian genocide to be a genocide way back in 2000.  See here:
    http://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.165/current_category.7/affirmation_detail.html

    Really, folks, how pathetic is this?  The Swedish executive branch apparently does not even keep track of what its  own legislative branch has done.

    As for Turkey’s waiting 10 years to get angry, this is commendable restraint.  But I think that Turks misunderstand the saying “Count ’til 10 before saying something in anger.”   The 10 refers to 10 SECONDS, not 10 YEARS. 
    I feel sorry for Turks.

  10. Nairian,
    are you for real? you are accusing the armenian diaspora, the dashnaks, the so-called corrupt government members of longstanding European nations and in the same breath, redeeming Turkey of the billions it has spent on denialism campaigns over the past 7 decades – including bribes…  have you had your coffee this morning? cause you don’t sound like you are awake yet.
     

  11. avatar Hratch Arzoumanian // March 15, 2010 at 4:39 pm // Reply

    Robert,

    What can we say to you as “As usual , you speak yet you say NOTHING!!!’
    Because you know NOTHING.  What can anybody expect from a person like you as long as you are “just a simple paid agent of Turkey!!”
    I repeat what Armenian said to Drew above.  Put yourself in the  place of that victim.
    You speak about Tashnak.  You don’t even have a clue what Tashnak is.  Do you know that there are about 10 million Tashnak?  Every Armenian is a Tashnak of your understanding.  Henchag, Tashnak or Ramgavar are all together when an ignorant paid agent  talks nonsence.  How much the turks are paying you?  Since “Tashnak Armenian diaspora sure are flowing quite freely thses ( I think you mean these) days” if Tashnak pays  “freely” more than Turkey to you, I am sure you start drumming the Armenian drum, because you do not have concience and you are not after justice, you are after money only, because you are a mercenary.
    For your sake, I wished you kept quiet.  But how could you do it since Turkey is paying you.

  12. Robert,
    “As usual, you speak yet you say NOTHING!!! This is quite typical for Turks, but will only be tolerated by a civil world for just so long. You were posed questions in other areas and have still yet to respond. Is there a particular reason why you are not responding, or are you simply playing the century old Turkish hit and run game? ”
    It becomes even more interesting in your next sentence: “For your edification…”
    What is “edification”? Making and edifice?

  13. Dear ‘Armenian’ and other Armenians,
    Dont take my earlier comment wrongly, I am not trying to tell you that Armenians were not killed, I am just suggesting a way out for ‘peace’.    AND yes, peace must come first.   Because when you talk about ‘justice’ first, you wont every get anywhere.  (ie. last century).   Do you honestly think you can strong-arm a person into accepting something honestly?   OR do you think all the Armenian lobby power in all these countries will never get tiring to law makers in those countries.   People get tired of this every year.
    Plus, getting some law makers in various countries to vote in favor of Armenian lobby is only depleting your hard earned money.   That’s why law makers are loving it.   They make money off of you.
    As for other type of justice, you have to go to war with turkey if you really mean it.    If you are powered by injustice and lies, you will prevail.    Collect all that money you spent on lobbying in 95 years and you would have a better result by now.
    And most of all, if there is a ‘normalization’ effort between the two countries, why dont you build on that?

  14. I think this world has gone pansy. 

  15. I won’t be traveling to Sweden . . .

  16. “Drew” must be a worried Turk who monitors the Armenian websites….We must be doing something right!!  Keep the faith fellow Armenians, after all, it is our faith that always scared the Turks!!

  17. It appears that there is something every U.S. president knows that we do not know. Pres. Obama supported genocide recognition during the campaign, but once elected, what is the information he has that we do not have. If it is for ally-sake, everyone forgets that Turkey forbade refueling of American jets when we attacked Iraq. We need to ask the question, what is the hold Turkey has over the U.S.?

  18. SOSY, NICE COMMENT (OUR FAITH IS TOP PRIORITY)
    FRIEND, YOU ARE SELFISH AND I ONLY WISH YOU LIVED WITH TURKS SO THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED YOUR FAMILY THEN WE WOULD HAVE SEEN IF YOU WOULD SAY THAT EVER!!!!!

    DREW, PLEASE READ THE DAWN HISTORY, BECAUSE WERE NOT OVER POPULATED LIKE TURKS DOESN’T MEAN WE HAVE NO RIGHTS!! 75MIL AGAINST 3MIL GET YOUR MATH GOING! SECONDLY, NO CENTURY HAS PASSES OR WILL EVER PASS BECAUSE WHEN ARMENIANS EXISTED AND HAD HISTORY NON OF YOU DID, ALL EUROPEAN THINGS AND ARE EUROPEAN CAME FROM ARMENIANS BUT THEY ARE STLL HIDING UNTIL WE PROVE IT TO YOU ALL.

    DIANE, YOU WILL GO TO SWEDEN BECAUSE TURKS HAVE NO FACE AND WE DO, CHRISTIANS AFTERALL ARE SCARED OF MUSLIMS THAT’S ALL!
    ARMENIAN, I’M SPEECHLESS, THANK YOU, BEST WORDS WERE WRITTEN! AMEN.

  19. TO ALL IDIOTS OUT THERE WHO DON’T THE HISTORY,

    LIKE IT SAID MILLIONS OF TIMES THAT NOT ONLY ARMENIANS WERE MASSACERED BUT WERE ALSO BULGARIANS, RUSSIANS, GREEKS, ASSYRIANS, KURDS, GEORGIANS, SPANISH AND OTHER THAT WE HAVE NO RECORDS YET TO BE DEFINITE.

  20. Drew, who gets tired of this? You get tired of this? then please do me a favor and stop writing about it. Go and watch MTV
    To answer your previously put rhetoric as far as money and lobbying, why don’t you ask YOUR Turkish Government to admit the Genocide and pay the Armenians back the money that they intended to spend on lobbying themselves. You don’t seem to understand the difference between killings and GENOCIDE.
    There will be NO NORMALIZATION between Armenians and Turks so long as you and your types are trying to force-bury your crimes.
    If your mother was murdered, I wanted to see you get the BALLS to accept an offer from the criminal to make peace and “get on”
    I tell you what.. GET A LIFE! because honestly you are truly, honestly, sincerely, cordially, PISSING OFF every single Armenian on this page.
    There will NEVER be peace without justice.. you get that? NEVER! WE WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO MURDER OUR PEOPLE TWICE BY DENYING THE GENOCIDE AND TRYING YOUR VAIN ATTEMPT TO “MOVE ON” because you and Turks could move on.. we cannot, murderers usually are the one’s wanting to “move on” (what else they could say? “let’s accept our guilt?”) We Armenian’s will never move on, will will stay and fight and struggle and go on and on. You wrote about war.. THAT IS our WAR against Turkey. War all over the world.. kid!
    One more thing.. I am NOT YOUR DEAR.. I am your enemy.

  21. http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/12895/a/141436

    … and you can freely send them a message :)

  22. avatar another armenian // March 16, 2010 at 10:11 am // Reply

    ketses armenian, for your very descriptive reply to our friend drew,
    whoever blames the armenians for seeking justice, may something far worst happen to them so they can understand our pain

  23. avatar Rebaz Tahir Benjamin // March 16, 2010 at 11:09 am // Reply

    What a joke this PM of Sweden is. European governments as well as US government have a strong tendency to bow down to Turkish threats.
     
    Another perfect example of that is the recent criminal raids commited by the Belgian, French and Italian governments against the properties of alleged PKK terrorists (read: freedom fighters), who in reality are fighting for the freedom of their people.
     
    The real terrorists are white collar criminals, who wear 10,000 dollar suits, at the expense of exploited resources and child labour (read: slavery) across the globe.
     
    To the US, UN, EU, NATO and all the other similar organizations, thank you for making our world a much better and safer place to live in. The last part was a joke by the way for those of you who didn’t get it.
     
    Freedom for Kurdistan and Armenia!!!

  24. Oh boy, some of the comments for me are terrible.   So I am going to take a step back and leave you with your problems.
    Please do not accuse me with stuff.   You dont even know me, nor who I am.
    As a final note, remember that everyone is entitled to a just trial.   You can not strong-arm (force) someone to accept your thoughts.

  25. Drew,
    Yes, some comments may have been horrible ..and you may or may not deserve to get them; however you need to understand that instead of trying to make us understand that we cant fight against a steel machine with trying to force them and just forget about it will not fly.. We as a nation and culture have been fighting for centuries to keep our flame, our identify alive and when a horrible chapter in history happens to our people, you can’t and have no right to preach to the same offsprings of those who parished in cold blood.. You have to understand that by sweeping the matter under the rug will never solve the problem.. and trust me, you tell an Armenian to forget about it and move on because it happened 95 years ago will add more fuel to the pain.. hence, you will get comments such as you did above..

    Whoever you are, and I don’t want to assume because you may be someone who jst happen to read Armenian on-line newspaper (which is highly unlikely), please do some research on the history of the Armenian people and the Armenian Genocide, and you will understand why we are so passionately fighting this till the end… 

    Robert,
    Is it your life goal to waste your time with putting nonsense on the web? You already know how I feel about you and I am sure you have a sense of how the rest of my collegues feel about you.. so why dont’ you spare yourself and us by taking a cold shower to wake up from your ugly dream… You WILL NEVER GET RID OF US..and Turkey WILL PAY..

    “Armenian” spoke from the heart.. I feel the same way… I can’t blame for the passion and anger that came from the the “Armenian” heart…  I would have said the same thing…

    and PM of Sweden.. well.. i wonder how much money did he get from Turkey to say that.. I hope the Swedish people will rise and kick his sorry looking (he sure looks like someone without a spine) u know what…..

  26. your words brought me to tears.

  27. Gayane, thank you for writing nicely.    You are right, you should not forget.   You should teach and cherish your history.   Teach it with love and understanding for your generations to come.
    Sosy, I am not ‘a worried Turk’ and am not “monitoring your websites”.  This article was on a news engine that I came up on.   I am a scholar of political science and history.
    Armenian, I am not your enemy.   I dont know you.   Dont give up, give up, I dont really care.   I think it is tiring on the politicians.    It is not a political issue to solve these events.   They dont know enough to say nay or ey.
    My intention wasnt to annoy everyone on this page.   I am sorry if I did.   I am only trying to approach the subject fairly.
    Why is there such a hatred towards Turks?   today’s turks dont even know much.    And today’s Armenians think that’s all there is to know .  .  .
    Your history is richer than that.     Everybody is not out to get Armenians.    Everything can be solved people to people, face to face, with love and respect.   That’s how you communicate your desires and expect a nice response.
     

  28. Drew,

    Everything is political.. . especially this matter… Historians already agreed there was a Genocide… so why is Turkey still push the fact that ” No, there was no Genocide”… We already established that if we leave it to Turkey,t hey will deny the history until they are blue in their faces… Hence, why historians around the world had to do the research and come to a conclusion that what Armenians endured was a Genocide.. But Turkey is completely dismissed, and still dismissing this fact…..

    Hence, to answer your question as to why we hate Turks so much? We can’t hate every Turk but majority fall under the umbrella of ” we can’t stand” their ignorance, their stupidity, and their lies… we hate the fact that for 95 years they have cheated, lied, and covered up the truth with spending billions of money… why??? hmmm, i wonder if they are trying to buy out the Genocide and buy out history with their dirty money.. hmm.. I believe so.. what do you think?  why do you think they spend so much money on politicians to keep this quite? You are a politician yourself.. please share some thoughts on this..why is US soo afraid of Turkey.. Please share your thought on this as well.. I thought US  is a super power, and it does not and should not answer Turkey.. and it should be the other way around.. but I don’t know what it is.. or maybe we don’t know what Obama and the rest of the Presidents know who fell under Turkey’s spell and continueously ignored this fact… 

    You can’t have a peaceful communication and normal relations with a country who is built on lies, blood from other nations, and disrespect to the world.. no way that will happen… not with Turkey..

    If it is not political, then what is?

    Thank you
    Gayane 

  29. Drew,
    You do not know who I am, and neither does any one Armenian on this page and other pages that I write on.
    I am no one, I am nobody, but I am the spirit of victims, a son of Armenia, the victims have no voice as I want to be the voice of those who were not given a chance to live.., the voice of the millions of children who were choked, cut down, murdered in cold blood…. the mothers who were killed one by one…, the girls who were raped one by one…, the elderly who were put behind each other and shot… The voice of the land that was stolen, the history of Armenia erased from the map…
    Do you hear their them? Could you hear them? The world forgot about them… but we did not.. WE NEVER WILL!  never will…!
    Do you want to be a friend? defend the victims.. do not sweep crimes under the rugs of governments and modern day globalization.
    I really do not care about any politicians. Politicians are worse than prostitutes for they care only about their 1) money, 2) position, 3) reelection. They worry only about their homes, cars, businesses, IRA’s and grandchildren education or marriage/divorce issues. There is no justice in politicians.. and please do not bring the “tiresomeness” of politicians to me. Please do NOT tell  me “they do not know”.. THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.. politicians have entire national archives and tons of historical material and hosts of historians that tell them it was a GENOCIDE.. not only a GENOCIDE, but even the word “GENOCIDE” was made by R. Lemkin (a Polish Jew) JUST to describe the mass killings of Armenians and the horrendous works the Turks were doing erasing an entire civilization from the map of the world… It is the core word, the ethos of the action, and I wish to spit at the fact of every “politician” who ALL KNOW that it was  A GRAND GENOCIDE, but yet they do nothing except playing “political football” to score points against each other using the blood and pain of millions of innocents.. They are all cowards, filthy, spineless sellers of blood of innocents, and I could care less if they all died tomorrow, when they never had ONE OUNCE  of sympathy or humanity to the millions of innocents.
    Our Genocide is different than the other genocides and even the Holocaust. If you want to be friends with Armenians NEVER downplay of equalize our national eternal pain with that of Turks (or subhumans), if Turks had an ounce of humanity, they would not deny the Genocide which is the last chapter of the rampageous murder of an entire race from this earth.
    You spoke of being “fair” If you truly want peace, then be fair, and tell any Turk you see to accept the crime of their forefathers. That stain remains on them as long as they don’t, the pain stays in our heart as long as they don’t, the hatred grows in millions upon millions of Armenians as long as the World is deaf, dumb, blind, indifferent, senseless to us.
    There will be NO PEACE between Armenians and Turks, and Armenia and Turkey.. because for Turks, to kill one person, it is “murder”.. but to eradicate an entire race from this earth.. well… it is “disputable”..
    If anything similar happened to them, I wish to see them act otherwise..
    As far as you.. do me a favor.. stop sounding like them..

  30. Dear Drew,
    I am a diasporan Armenian who has chosen to move and live in Armenia. I am one of the few who have actually done this. This says a lot about our people, I’m sure. You also say that our history is richer that that (of genocide) – I completely agree. There is a lot that the diaspora has neglected and put on the back-burner simply because the fight for the cause (genocide recognition) has been.. well, how to put it, unFAIR (to use a term you are constantly bringing up). We have had decades of struggle and out cry from all over the world. Had the International Community done its FAIR share in the 50-60s and recognized that there was indeed a calamaty that took place during the first world war; had they punished the perpetrators; had they accepted the facts and the testimonies of thousands of survivors – 2 generations of Armenians would have been spared the painful struggle and would have focused on more positive (cultural, spiritual, scientific, etc) parts of our history – past and current. BUT, since the human race has a very short memory span, we have still a lot to do to remind ourselves that given the ugly truth about the Armenian Genocide; given the unpunished crime, we (humans of the 21st century) are still committing such horrible crimes all over the world, where perpetrators feel the precendent of teh unpunishable crimes and act upon them.
    How is that for a political science analysis? I am not being smart – just putting the situation in a global context for a non-Armenian (I assume that you are non-Armenian). By the way, I have made 2 trips to Turkey since my move to Armenia 7 years ago – it has opened my eyes on many issues. It has taken away alot of the hate, but has replaced it with more pain. The Turks of today (in Istanbul, at least) are kind, nice, and beautiful. The government, on the other hand, is deceptive, ignorant and oppressive (towards their own people) – yet the world bows to them.
    thanks for not ignoring, thanks for communicating, and thanks for reading my comments.

  31. One more thing….
    Yes.. Turks do not know much.. but do not write any lines to disqualify you from being a “scholar”.. If you are a “scholar” that is..
    Read Turkish history since the time of their appearance from Armenian, Greek, Assyrian, Persian, Kurdish, Arab, Cypriot, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Romanian, Albanian, Georgian, even English, Italian, French Russian and Polish and many other people’s perspectives and history books… WHY DO YOU THINK that they all agree about the brutal, bloody, genocidal and murderous past of more than 900 years of Turkish history of blood, with their invasions, forced mass conversions, abductions, destructions and genocides???  Could YOU answer this one tiny question for me?
    Or DO YOU THINK that the entire world is wrong and only Turks are right???
     
    If you are a “scholar of political science and history”.. do not write lines that are truly childish.. this is not the story of two children who had a fight.
    No true scholar writes absolute rubbish like that.
    There is an Armenian proverb that says: “Գուցէ ուզեցաւ իրեն գցի հորը, դու էլ կը՞ գցես:” Translation: Maybe he wanted to throw himself in the well, would you follow? open your eyes to see the truth.
    Yes, we Armenians know all that there is to know.. ask the other nations.

  32. WHAT YOU ALL GUYS WANT IS FOR TURKISH GOVERNMENT TO OPEN DISCUSSIONS ON 1915 EVENTS.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DO THAT: IT IS BY PROCEEDING WITH THE PROTOCOLS  BETWEEN ARMENIA AND TURKEY. DISCUSSIONS CAN ONLY BE OPENED IF YOU ARE SITTING ON THE SAME TABLE. BREAKING THE TIES WILL NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE!

  33. To AB
     
    NO we do not want “discussions” on 1915, that’s what Turkey and Turks like you want. We want you to recognize your heinous crimes.
    Even sqaure headed people could understand this much. you don’t even qualify for one!

  34. Hello again GAYene,
    you are right. everything is political. you diaspora people are afraid your influence is disappearing and this makes you guys so angry.
    by the way, you still dont think of going back to armenia, your homeland? why dont you join the starving armenians in yerevan? do you still live in the usa that was established by stealing lands from native americans?
    you cant go back. because it is not the armenians in armenia you care. it is the hatred in you that you want to feed.

  35. avatar Kiazer Souze // March 17, 2010 at 6:24 pm // Reply

    Meanwhile, the German government has offered Turks living in Germany 10.000 Euros to leave Germany.

    Sweeden’s PM should appologize to Armenians for having the lack of courage. I thoght them Vikings would have more courage then they have displayed by their PM’s shameful act.

  36. Unless you stop your ignorance, you will continue to be the laughing matter on this site. have some shame and morals. Oh but wait.. what am i talking about?  people that have connection and practice and worship anything and everything that has any sort of connection to Jihad do not have shame, do not have a heart, do not have a soul… they are all robots working for the same goal.. to terrorize, kill and murder to get what they want.. to control the world…that is what you and your country represent AHMED….. at least I have the balls to call you by your name.. however FAKE that may be….

  37. avatar Hye Garlicky Basterma // March 18, 2010 at 1:34 am // Reply

    I keep hearing the same old flawed arguments from uneducated Turks. They keep pointing to Native Americans and other crimes like slavery.

    The response from a highshcool kid taking philosophy would be simple in that: (1) two wrongs don’t make a right and: (2) America has appologized to the Native Americans and African Americans and has established the Civil RIghts Act of 1964.

    As a matter of fact, there is an African American in the Supreme Court of the United States, and if you have forgotten, last time I checked, President Obama is half black.

  38. Ahmet,  what are you on about?
    let’s start with a simple lesson in basic history… the fact that Gayane and so many others do not reside in Armenia is the mere consequence of the killings, masacres of the Armenians at the dirty blood stained hands of the Turks…  that forced our granfathers to leave their lands to seek refuge away from the murderous turks…
    As to why Gayane or anyone else for that matter does not go back to live in Armenia, firstly it is none of your bloody business, however if i am to humour you, i would say, simply because we are stronger like this, we can influence nations, make the memory of our slaughtered grandfathers unforgettable, we simply have more leverage… of course the likes of you would rather have all of us in one place… is it easier to control us like that?  impoverish us so we say yes to everything?? I’ve got news for you… that will not happen as long as the likes of you & the Turkish government refuse to recognise their murderous acts! we will haunt you and expose your bloodstained past from every angle, every part of the world… for everyone to know you for your true ugly selves!
    now bugger off! you don’t belong here!
     
     
     

  39. Apres Hayasdan…

    et apusha says things like to educate us… chi imanum vor menq petq chunenq sovorelu.. et inqna vor piti sovori.. he thinks by throwing something stupid out there will stick.. but he knows I will not allow it.. inqa apusha…

    Togh xosa.. i will shut him up…yev mersi qo commenti hamar.. that will shut him up too…

    G

  40. To Hayasdan:

    Please do not cheat yourself.

    Sitting in your big villa in L.A., please do not pretend to be stronger like this.

    Go to Armenia and see how they are living spend one week with them. See which kind of problem they have.

    By the way who si trying to control who? You can be in one place or 10 places nobody in Turkey cares. What Armenians from the the US do is the least of the Turkey’s problems.

    I am very curious to know what do you expect to achieve with such hatred filled attitude.

  41. AB wrote: “What Armenians from the the US do is the least of the Turkey’s problems.”

    hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA HAAAA … (serious now. )

    What is you next practical joke? Are you reading newspapers? Oh I forgot , you can’t read!!!  hmmmm!

    WE are full of hate? I tell you what.. Once  upon a time there was something about you Turks that I liked, but you have spent it…

  42. Ahmet

    Have you been to Armenia? Not only I doubt it.., but suggest you start acting your age, senile!

    Speaking of “starving Armenians”, I CONGRATULATE you for finally coming out of Turkish hybernation and across a poster that has those wordings “Starving Armenian”. But that is from 1915-1919.., and guess WHO WERE the reasons for their starving? Could you? nope! because for a Genocide denier even if you had a brain transplant, your body would reject the brain.

    Finally do not call anyone ‘gay’ like you did to Gayane. If you want to see some gays, go to Taksim in Istanbul where the majority of Turkish gay bars are. Some reading about the life of Ataturk would not hurt either to know who he was…

  43. VAY Mernem qo et lav xosgerit Armenian jan..

    NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE… shat lav asetsir.. APRES…:)

    I could not have said it better than that….

    AB,
    I said this before but i am saying it again.. don’t be as stupid and ignorant like your collegues Amhet who is a bit slow and his fake “brother” Robert, Muhmen, muhmad, amhud or whatever your names are.. you all sound the same.. do you guys even know how funny your comments sound to us and many non Armenians who actually read them as well? please stop..save yourselves some embarassment…

    I echo Armenian’s comment on: ONCE upon a time Armenians enjoyed living and respected their Turkish neighbors but those days got swallowed by the greedy, cold blooded, jealous, unintelligent, scared and two faced Turkey and its citizens…who could not keep their tails between their legs and go on with their small lives….they tried to be lions when in reality they were small cats.. they caused all this pain, killed so many people and scarred their name and existance for mere fear of being overshined by the most prominent and intelligent minority at that time…Armenians.. i feel sorry for Turks.. ….

  44. Ոչինչ Գայանե ջան

  45. ARMENIAN,
    SORRY IF I AM NOT READING ARMENIAN NEWSPAPERS.
    WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT THE US ARMENIAN ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE TURKS HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT THINK ABT THE ARMENIAN. AND THAT THEY SPEND THEIR TIME COMPLOTING ABT THE POOR LITTLE ARMENIAN.
    US SENATE RECOGNITION IS A POLITICAL ISSUE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

    GUYANE,
    FIRST, I AM MAYBE IGNORANT, BUT AT LEAST I THINK CLEARLY AND MY JUDGEMENT IS NOT WEAKENED BECAUSE OF MY HATRED. SECOND, HOW DO YOU KNOW MY ORIGIN? MAY BE I AM ARMENIAN. YOU ARE SO FULL OF YOUR IDEAS THAT YOU CAN CONCEIVE THAT THERE ARE SOMES WHICH MAY HAVE LESS EXTREMISTS IDEAS, SOMES WHICH UNDERSTOOD THAT DISCUSSIONS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO TOWARDS SOMETHING.
    100 COUNTRIES CAN ADOPT DECISIONS. WHAT IS IT GOING TO CHANGE?
    I DO NOT KNOW VERY MUCH THE ARMENIAN PRESIDENT, MR SARKISYAN, BUT HE AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD THAT THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE SOMEWHERE WAS TO SIT ON THE SAME TABLE.

  46. Ay apres Aremenian jan..

    Good catch.. Maybe Amhet can understand that the reason we had “Starving, deprived, and homeless” Armenians is because of the heartless acts his ancestors and current Turkey has done… Maybe he and his kind will understand because of the Genocide my great grandfather who dedicated his entire adult life to put his life on hold to help his people and find those who were lost, bought, held hostage and/or taken by Turks and reunite them with their families who were all over the world.. My great grandfather who was left penniless because his fortune that was suppose to go to him were taken from his family when Turks killed his father, mother, sister and his grandmother along with other relatives locate, … But his revenge and his strong love to recoup what was left after the horrible Genocide, allowed him to do the honorable work that he did with little money that he had, and helped thousands to reunite.. the letters that he included in his autobio is just amazing to read.. I wish i knew my great grandfather in person.. he is my inspiration.. he is my role model.. and that love and patriotic sense that i have in me comes from him.. I am his great grand daughter…. God rest his soul and all those people who are alive and the Armenian blood still runs through their veins(particularly people from Datem where he was born, Marash, Kharbert, and many other provinces) are forever greateful to him and his work to his nation…….

    Armenian jan.. du unes the passion and the frustration that i share as well.. lol

    Gayane

  47. Friends,
    I posted this exact thing at another weekly site…but

    Just read this article… it was shared by a good friend of mine who is not Armenian..

    I dare that Erdogan to go ahead and deport 100,000 Armenians out of Turkey.. I DARE HIM…

    He said: ” We are tolerating the remaining 100,000 non Muslims and Armenians are not my citizens, and I dont’ have to keep them in my country..”.. YOU MORON, the country YOU are living in belongs to Armenians.. and it is you who wants them out of your country?? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/7465701/Turkey-threatens-to-expel-100000-Armenians-over-genocide-row.html

  48. AB (CDEFG…..)

    I am going to refraim myself from slashing out on you but dont’ worry if I do it will only be with words and not with swords.. i know you guys are used to using weapons, we use our intellect and words to stand againts morans such as yourself..

    First.. The only reason I know you may not be Armenian is because if you don’t know how to spell the name Gayane, very ancient Armenian name.. then you definintely are not an Armenian in my eyes..

    Second: Armenians dont’ compose their paragraphs and their entire comments in caps.. We use capitalization to emphasize a word or a sentence for you people to notice.. Armenians are more educated and we have learned the proper way of composing sentences.. we dont’ yell at people to get our point across….if you did not know this .. in writing when you are using all caps to compose your thoughts and ideas and everything else, it means you are shouting at the person.. a writing lesson for you.. if you did not learn this in your country or at school…

    Third: if you are from an Armenian blood, then you would not say that  Sarkissian knows what he is doing.. Obviously you are not an Armenian.. If you dont’ know about Sarkissyan, I would suggest to go and read about it.. while you are at it, please read about the Armenian Genocide.. It may open your eyes..and may give you some insight what your Turks did to the Armenians..then you would not come here and tell how you write with a clear mind.. your mind is anything but clear Mr or Mrs AB… what a joke.. clear mind..HA..i laugh at that….

    If my great grandfather was alive who lost his parents, his sister and grandmother to the bloody marches, his entire fortune that could have been left to him would spit on the faces of those who preach on having discussions.. You do not sit across from the devil and try to make him understand truth and justice.. Devil does not have a soul, heart and mind.. AKA Turkey..

    So keep your discussion Mr or Mrs AB and know that the discussion time is OVER.. emphasizing the word over because we are over you and your kind..

    Have a nice day..
    P.S.
    Armenian jan.. gitem vor du will be very upset at this.. bayts mi togh es aylandaka qez hunits hani.. i know you are going to reply to this.. gitem..

  49. AB
    My answer for you is in my lines on March 17 (please look up) it starts with the words “Drew, you do not know” and ends with “stop sounding like them”
    please read it carefully to know why we Armenians and you Turks cannot reconcile under the current conditions.. If you see me angry and call Turks with some names.. there is a reason for it.. a very very large reason.
    Good luck.

  50. Gayane thanks very much dear.. but please calm down!

  51. Gitem Armenian jan.. Gitem.. Ashxatum em.. hesht chi calm linel yerp vor apush martik irants apush commentnerov indz u im joghovurtin en ampatvum..

    bayts inch arats  mer taq aryuna hosuma ver yerakneri mech… :)

    Astvats mer het..

    Gayane

  52. THE SWEDISH PM, SHOULD  shut the hell up, and stop kissing up to TURKISH MUSLIMS, who the hell is turkey for sweden to apologize, GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK.

  53. “Turkish Muslims” ??? The Swedish PM apologized Turkey. There is nothing about religions here. Try to be objective. How much do you know about the ” so called” genocide??

  54. Es OV er????

    Arzu obviously we know more about The Armenian Genocide than you…

    Wow…

    G

  55. avatar Kiazer Souze // March 25, 2010 at 1:58 am // Reply

    Arzu,

    I know a lot about the Genocide. I heard it first hand from my grand parents. How much do you know about Turkish denialism?

  56. Shat lav asetsir Kiazer….

    Shat havanetsi qo reply@….

    Gayane

  57. AB – until you read the history books which tell the truths of the Turkish Genocide of the Armenian nation you do not know  that which you think are  truths.  And, do not refer to the Turkish history books – for your leaders have made certain that the Turkish history books omitted the truths of the Turkish Genocides against the Armenians, Greek, Assyrians and the Kurds. (Your leaders deliberately want their citizens to hate the Armenians –  victims of the Turkish Genocides).   Using the most hideous forms of torture, kidnapping, (so many grandmothers of Turks were Armenian women taken against their will) slaughters, bandinados which the victims feet were beaten until they bled and then swelled and burst – then death!  And more…  If at all you are aware/knowledgeable the Turkish Genocide has been pursued for many years too  - now of the Kurdish peoples.
    More, today young Armenians and Kurds together are bringing attention to the 15 year old young Kurdish girl who has been sentenced to a Turkish jail (notoriously vile) for the next eight (8) years of her life – for being in the wrong place at the wrong time – accused of calling names to a Turkish policeman.  I hope this policeman, and the judge who sentenced her have daughters at their homes – and see this young child each and every time they are with such young daughters…. knowing the fate they have given her!
    You are in a culture which lies to their own citizens… you are programmed to believe the leaderships of Turkey – sadly, these leaders, have for nearly 100 years lied to you, their own Turkish citizens.  Sad for a Turkey, sad to be near such a neighbor for Armenia – as the Turks still pursue actions to ‘eliminate’ the Armenians – still today 1915-2010. Turkey today is still suffering from Ottoman mentality.  Turkey glitters to the world – but Turkey within is decaying, decayed and facing their destiny – before the world.   Manooshag

  58. Manooshag, unfortunately I am unable to share my ideas freely with you.

    Because the site moderator is not printing my comments.

    On 19th of March I have replied to the comments of GAYANE and ARMENIAN.

    My comments were never printed.

    I am not even sure if this comment will posted…

    I would very much apreciate to know why my comments were blocked.

  59. “He was very disappointed by the Swedish Parliament’s bes ***. I also expressed my regret. ” This is what the Swedish PM actually said. I agree it’s still gutless but no one would translate “regret” into “apology” except if they were trained in Turkish “Officialese” – i.e. lying, distorting, denying, inventing, fabricating, manufacturing… fables as history relevant to Turkey in general and the Armenian Genocide in particular. Turkey has an entire official system for this fabricated tale for history, dominated by the Turkish Historical Society and all its state “universities and institutes” which are propped up and supported by millions of dollars of state funds and protected by punitive laws such as 301 and other ridiculous “insulting Turkishness” laws – i.e. anyone who dares to think or say otherwise (e.g. Hrant Dink or Orhan Pamuk, amongst an increasing number of HONEST, COURAGEOUS AND INDEPENDENT historians, journalists and intellectuals) either gets a bullet in the head (Hrant Dink) or has to go into exile (Orhan Pamuk who is the only Noble Prize winner from Turkey) and thousands of others who get put behind bars or penalised or bankrupted or firebombed (such as many independent publishers and newspapers – e.g Ragip Zarakolou). The country lives a lie and th emajority of its citizens are brought up on diet of fables to deny their own real history and the Armenian Genocide in particular AND TO HATE ARMENIA AND ARMENIANS. As to the deep reasons for this just read Taner Akcam’s “A Shameful Act”. So don’t expect to be able to “teach” any different to these guys who regurgitate what they have been brainwashed all their lives and nothing else but lies. As to those Turks who do this from the US and Europe they are a much deeper problem and are PART OF THE DEEP STATE and its Turkish racist-nationalism and terrorism, A DANGEROUS FIFTH COLUMN in democratic countries that will be used at the right time to advance Turkish Deep State dreams of dominating Europe – something which the Swedish and British Prime ministers are too cowardly to appreciate yet!
    As to “starving Armenians in Yerevan” our friend Armenian has already said all there is to be said. However in reply to the another distorted reference about “why L.A Armenians won’t go back home” apart from the reply that it’s none of the business of the person asking one has to add the following: “home” is Western Armenia as well as the current Republic of Armenia and that day, when Armenians will go “home” is getting closer and closer!

  60. AB,
    Once you realize why you were censored, it would be the day your eyes will open and a clear picture will come forth about what we, ARMENIANS are about and what THE GENOCIDE means to us… Until then, I am sorry to say but what you HAVE TO say to us probably better off not being printed… In addition, I already replied to you as to why I think your comments were not printed…

    Bagraduni- BRAVO.. excellent post.. Shat shat havanetsi.. You said what many think in a nutshell.. Apres…

    Gayane

  61. AB,

    You’re not alone! The editorial board is comprised of your typical dashnak Armenian facist cowards who are too terrified to allow even the slightest chance of an opposing thought to come through and “infect” the brainwashed minds of the other dashnak Armenians! If that happens, then their propaganda no longer works! Then they REALLY have nothing. All they can do is censor and delete. Anyway, get used to it!

  62. Robert… what you need to get use to is that both you and AB are in denial and live in your own screwed up and made up worlds..

    But thank you for the laughs because instead of paying to go to a comedy show, i read your posts and your commrades comments.. and that just does it for me.. laughable…

    Gayane

  63. Some people appeased Hitler without a fight too. At least the Parliament stood up for something!

  64. PS Anyway this was reported in Hurriyet. Who knows if it is really the truth?

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