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Vicken Babkenian

Vicken Babkenian

Vicken Babkenian is an independent researcher for the Australian Institute for Holocaust and Genocide Studies. He is the co-author (with Professor Peter Stanley) of Armenia, Australia and the Great War (NewSouth Publishing 2016) - shortlisted for 2 major Australian history awards.
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  1. what a great story…
    first they cause our demise, which turned us into homeless refugees, and beggars, 
    then they organize a relief fund to help the starving armenians
    what angels of mercy…
    but, not all is lost, justice will be served, sooner or later
    armenians all over the globe, wake up and realize who your true enemies are, and remember safety is in qualitative numbers, organization and vigilance, and most of all being well versed in your history and MOTHER TONGUE, improving the present and planning for a super strong united armenia.
    universe…bless armenia, and all armenians across the globe

  2. I fully agree with Hayrenaser. These facts do not exalt me at all. On the contrary. To learn that imperialists who devastated the native populations of the countries mentioned and then played nice guys and general and compassionate donors (very likely just to clear their own dirty conscience for their own genocidal policies against the Chinese, the native Sud-Africans, etc.) to the Armenian cause makes me sick.

  3. Dear Hayranaser and Armenian lady

    I’m not sure if you understood Vicken’s article. The Near East Relief was a non governmental organisation. Individual Americans, Australians, native Chinese, Koreans, Filipinose, Kafir’s etc etc donated out of their compassion and sympathy. This is different from “state foreign policies” of the countries in which they lived in. The article is not intending to whitewash the dark history of imperialist nations, it’s just highlighting the fact that there were compassionate people of all nationalities that responded to the Armenian Genocide. Also, that the Armenian Genocide was widely publicised around the world and there was an international repsonse. I can’t believe you interpreted the article so wrongly.

  4. sireli david
    i understood vicken’s article very well, and i am not questioning his intentions…
    i am sharing my reaction to the genocide reality as i see it,
    “gna merir yekur sirem” closely translated would be “i will love you after your dead”
    this his how the organized criminals in  tie and suite, (aka, modern day NGO’s, non-profit charitable organization, corporation, CEOs, just a few variants of real crooks with angelic masks) operate, they murder someone and then show up to the funeral and weep pretending to show  how much they cared and loved  that person…the ultimate keghtzavoruthyun
    and by the way no government will allow  NGO’s to operate within/out of   of its territories unless they serve its needs in a form of soft power
    and last, if they really wanted to help us, they should of armed us before they were activly involved in the destruction of the ottoman empire
    they came as missionaries, surveyed the land gathered information, and proceeded with their plan, knowing very well that the armenians would be slaughtered…once again i am not fooled by this charitable cover-up,
    i am too familiar with gna merir yekur sirem sickness that has plagued the world since the beginging of time…
    as i said before, all is not lost, what goes around, comes around
    those who have ears let them hear

    ArmenianLady you are my herosuhi,  

  5. David, I can see why Hayrenaser jumped to that conclusion after putting up with his slanders in most English-language Armenian publications. I’m surprised he’s posting his commentary in what he has previously deemed an evil, ARF, anti-Hay publication, though.

  6. hagop,
    you must be confusing me with someone else, i don’t know what you mean by putting up with my slanders in other publications????\
    that aside, what part of my comment did you find slanderous, that lead you to believe that i am the same person you encountered in another context???
    i have no doubt there are many user names: hayrenaser 
    i would strongly suggest you read my comments carefully and connect the dots, i would never slander anyone or anything that is genuinely
    pro-armenian

  7. I agree with Hayaser. To add. An American relief organization’s number one job is to make a profit and meddle into the political affairs of a target nation. And nothing makes a better profit for such entities than a major disaster. From Haiti to Africa to Indonesia, examples are many.
     
    In my opinion, any NGO in Armenia (or elsewhere in the world) with ties to the United States is suspect. The potential for such NGOs being front offices for US intelligence services, or exploited by one, is extremely high. The death and destruction brought upon the developing/third world countries during the past fifty-sixty years by Washington based multinational corporations and government entities such as the World Bank, IMF and the USAID is biblical in magnitude, and they dwarf the supposed evils of Communism and Nazism. The Armenian sheeple need to read an insider’s two very eye opening publications. John Perkin’s – Confessions of an Economic Hitman and The Secret History of the American Empire Economic: Hit Men, Jackals, and the Truth about Global Corruption.
     
    Here is a little video presentation on John Perkins:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43f0F97HDM

  8. Dear Avetis

    Vicken’s article is about the work of the Near East Relief from 1915 to 1929. It is not about NGOs today which may be different in their organisational structure and aims. Many Anerican missionaries did not leave their posts in order to protect Armenians during the genocide. Many American relief workers died trying to save the Armenians. The NER operated over 200 orphanages which housed and fed over 130,000 Armenian orphans who would have otherwise died. The orphanage program taught the children Armenian and made sure they kept their original Armenian Gregorian religion. I would suggest those who are ignorant of the work of the NER to read James Barton’s “The Story of Near East Relief” before passing judgement on an organisation they know nothing about.

  9. David,
     
    My comments were specifically addressed to “Random Armenian” and they were general in nature. Although they were ultimately political and in it for profit, I am aware of the significant charitable work carried out by the NER during the genocide years.

  10. david…
    the only ones who are ignorant are those who view the world in a narrow scope and lack the intelligence to discern between good or bad intention when they see what seems to be a helping hand, we are well aware of the angelic work that was provided to our devastated people…
    gna merir, yekur sirem…which part of that do YOU not understand?????

    random armenian…
    avetis said it eloquently, haskatsoghin shat barev, for me to say respond to you, would be redundant

    if we just  had more hayrenakitsner like avetis u armenianlady, where would we be now as a nation????

    as i said before, not all is lost

  11. Dear Hayrenaser

    Just like my decision not to engage with Turkish nationalists who deny the Armenian Genocide, I will not engage with Armenian nationalists who are ungrateful and ignorant of the enormous humanitarian relief effort mounted by concerned members of the international community. Applying “gna merir, yekur sirem” to the work of the NER is evidence of a severe lack of knowledge on the subject matter and the inability to distinguish between the policies of the US State department with the policies of a humanitarian relief organisation that was concerned with the welfare of the Armenians.

  12. david,
    this is the 2nd time you are luring me into the word fighting arena…i will not sucumb  to this  bait, i will not argue with another armenian (assuming you are one) specailly when the subject at hand is our common enemy, so go ahead throw in all your american style stereotypical rebuttals, i have heard it all…yes we are ignorant and you are enlightened, we are ultra-nationalist and you are internationalist, globalist, unitarian… 
    great…
    you the bigger person,
    we are backwards, primitive, closed mined, anti-piece, politically incorrect, blindly devoted to the welfare of our people, and utterly ungrateful,,,
    where as, you are, the model-exemplary citizen, well versed in history, full of gratitude, and well trained in diplomacy and the art of bringing people together
    why don’t we all hold hands and sing kumbayah with our murderers (not just the turks, but specially their enablers, the ones you are sooooooo grateful for) and you can lead us to the campfire
    apre’s, shat apre’s

  13. In brief  format,to David, hayrenaser,Armenianm lady and all others.
    We thank Vicken,also author of Tigris Burning ,P.Balakian and Ms.Peterson.
    David  is  right to the point.One should know to seperate compassionate folk/people,NGO’s etc., from the politico/diplomats  of especially imperialistic  countries.
    My view point is the rest of you also have  indeed some reason…”Todos tenemos razon” a diplomatic phrase in spanish, that…moderates,such as self  now…meaning we all have reason in what we set forth to explain the many facets of our people…NAY  our Nation/State,excuse my mistake.for we are no more a pueblo/people..BUT  a NAION/State.Let us all be proud of it  and Artsakh that was similarly liberated from usurpers…
    As to the Nation/states  whose “compassiponate” sector CONTRIBUTED to Armenia and Armenians we bow  and thank them and hope we can  some reciprocate to them if God forbid need  arises.Dimplomacy///that is another sector  of humanity.A very clumsy one that has to be handled  with utmost caution,lest we make errors…
    hama Haigagani  SIRO
    G.P>

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