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This is a major setback considering this lawsuit was filed over a decade ago. No doubt significant financial, intellectual and emotional capital would have been invested in the case. It again reiterates the difficulties with pursuing legal avenues when the political establishment are not on the same page.
This decision is meant to serve not only the interest of the United States but also a certain other country.
This court ruling also tells what is going to be the outcome of the lawsuits filed against a turkish state bank and the central bank.
Apart from the flimsiness of the record in determining what US policy is, and the detriment caused to the states whenever a foreign power finds their legislation potentially offensive, the case is a disaster for Americans because it gives foreign governments a veto over our laws.
The real question is how will Turks try to employ Movsesian to derail Genocide education here.
But, here is something to enjoy about Bruce Fein, grandmaster of Turkish legal strategy in such disasters as the Griswold case. Disaster for them, that is.
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_subpage.php?pk_id=0000008751
This is the oral argument from 2/15 in which Fein is excoriated by judges from the Ninth Circuit with regard to his appeal of a trial court’s dismissal of his action for defamation against a candidate who allegedly said Fein’s links to Tamil groups made him complicit in terrorism.
A judge made him retract a false statement in his appellate brief, making Fein look incompetent at best. He is also lambasted for bringing the case to intimidate the defendant, a tactic we see in cases like Cingilli and Griswold.
At the center of all this is an insurance company who reneged on their obligations and got away with it. It’s disgusting greed.
But Turkey is a poor 3 world country. How come they are so influencial?
I doubt that the Ninth Circuit was influenced by what Turkey wanted. The appellant was an insurance company. Turkey and Turkish groups often seek to provide amicus briefs or letters on their views, and I doubt it has any impact.
The legal issue waswhether the state law interfered with the President’s ability to conduct foreign policy.
Our real enemy is THE US STATE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR ZIONIST COHORTS. ALWAYS HAS BEEN..
Also, when Obama was still promising to recognize the reality of the Armenian Genocide and most knew he had a real good chance of being elected, i remember Erdogan made a statement that stuck in my head when he said that Obama was a novice politician and didn’t understand the ‘reality of the situation and its implications’, or something to that effect.. I guess he didn’t. And neither did Reagan when he uttered the word genocide ONLY his first year in office. And neither did Bush Sr, Bill Clinton and Hillary and Bush Jr who all promised to recognize the genocide as well during their campaign..Someone gets to them right away.. WHO IS THAT SOMEONE?? THAT’S THE QUESTION..
THAT same one just convince 11 judges to ignore the legitimate contractual obligations of an insurance company and throw it under the rug under the silly guise of “Its really a federal decision and we can’t go against foreign policy”..
Something goes very deep about the coverup of the facts of the Armenian genocide when it comes to the US Government..That’s why voting for this guy or that guy isn’t going to make a difference…
Simply …. ” Our fault ” !!!
Movsesian v. Versicherung case is against a ‘German’ Insurer.
The case would not have been hampered with the US’s dirthy geopolitical foreign policy ‘if it was lodged in Germany.
We have many talented lawyers who should know this!
Well suing through US courts for returning properties stolen during AG is unreasonable since the federal government does not recognize it as genocide. After, or if, the the federal government does in the future, these lawsuits won’t be turned down, and will probably give verdicts favoring Armenians.
@ RVDV,
This article specically is about a court case dropped against German insurace company through US local court hindered by Federal lagislation and absence of Federal Genocide Recognition, hence very much possible other similar cases relating an/or based on Armenian Genocide be hampered for the same reason.
I think such claims have more chance of success in all those countries which have already recognized Armenian Genocide (such as France), United Nations and European Court of Justice.